Feedback from the Club's Fleet Mailing
by admin on Aug, 31 2016
Thanks for sending the information on safe passing (check-out HERE for background). I will post it in our driver crew room.
As you stated, bicycles are considered vehicles. As such, bicycles should be treated as (and are bound by the same rules of the road) as other vehicles on the road.
The biggest complaint I hear from my drivers is that way too many bike riders do not follow any rules; examples include riding on the wrong side of the road, running stop lights/signs, never signaling, and riding without lights.
Better education and law enforcement is necessary.
Mike Messenger, Rogue Disposal and Recycling
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Saturday, Mar 25
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Velo Melo
Start time Varies: Start Location Varies
25-30 Miles, Mellow (11-14 mph), Some Hills
Contact: Lisa Brill -
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{"id":674,"title":"Brisk Ride","description":"Brisk rides are for strong riders who want to ride at a brisk *average pace, with occasional sprints, and brisk climbs. The route and starting point will vary - expect some climbing and, in fact, on most days, a lot. Riders should know how to make repairs. Riders are expected to review online and understand the planned route. The Brisk group is NOT a no-drop group, slower riders are discouraged. <br \/>\r\n*Average Speeds \u2013 The speeds listed are average speeds maintained for the entire ride, not the minimum or maximum speeds. To maintain the average ride speed, riders will ride far faster and far slower at times. While not required, a cycle-computer is helpful to judge average speed. In some situations, leaders may feel the conditions justify a slower average minimum speed.","start_location":"Start Location Varies","unprefixed_start_location":"Start Location Varies","pace":"Brisk (>18 mph)","terrain":"Hilly","distance":"50+","ride_leader":"Dennis Cramer","phone_number":"541-773-5804 ","email":"scramer5804@charter.net","time":"Start time Varies","date":{"timestamp":1679813940,"formatted":"Saturday, Mar 25","midnightTimestamp":1679727600,"dayOfWeek":"Saturday"}}
Brisk Ride
Start time Varies: Start Location Varies
50+ Miles, Brisk (>18 mph), Hilly
Contact: Dennis Cramer - 541-773-5804
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Sunday, Mar 26
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Velo Melo Ride 3/26
11:30am: Meet at Blue Heron Park in Phoenix
35 Miles, Moderate (11-14 mph), Some Hills
Contact: Lisa Brill - lisa4bikes@gmail.com
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Monday, Mar 27
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Monday Coffee Ride
10:30am: Meet at Colver Park in Phoenix
25-30 Miles, Moderate / Brisk (14 - 18+ mph), Some Hills
Contact: Dennis Cramer - 541-773-5804
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Thursday, Mar 30
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Thursday morning Ride
Start time Varies: Meet at Jacksonville Library
20-40 Miles, Moderate / Brisk (14 - 18+ mph), Hilly
Contact: John Fries - 541-973-1586
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Gary Shaff
8/31/2016 at 2:29PM
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your reply and posting of the safe cycling poster.
I agree, Siskiyou Velo, as a cycling organization, has a lot of work to do to improve the behavior of people riding bicycles. We have been and continue to educate and train our members as well as the cycling community in general. As you say, there are way too many cyclists that don't follow the traffic laws. It will take, as you noted, police enforcement.
We hope, one day, that all local police department will help enforce the rules of the road for both motorist and cyclists. Unfortunately, without a bicycle diversion program (which Ashland is the only city in Southern Oregon with one) police officers are reluctant to cite bicyclists due to the often limited means of the cyclists and the high cost of the ticket. A diversion program seeks to avoid that problem by providing a lower fine coupled with an intensive day-long education and skills course.
Thank you again,
Gary Shaff
Velo Treasurer / Education Chair